Diskuse: Alfa Romeo 159: retuše a redukční dieta pro modelový rok 2008

Hm.Jak se říká,každý kilo dobrý,ale podle mě mohli ještě přitlačit.

Tech 100kg bylo asi spise pro GTA.

Ano, 45 kg není mnoho, ale jedná se převážně o neodpružené hmoty, což je opravdu důležité. Jízdní vlastnosti to posune ještě o něco dále.
Určitě by si vyžádala redukci i karoserie, ale to už jsou celkem výrazné zásahy.

SLubovali odlahcenie cez 100 kg v troch evolucnych krokoch (podvozok, karseria a to tretie neviem, asi interier/vybava), takze pokial je toto prvy krok, ta stovka by mohla lahko padnut. Niekde som cital prislub az 150kg dole pre Breru/Spider, tej by sa to podla kritiky zislo zhodit hned naraz. No pokial zrusenie 4x4 prechodom na predokolku ma byt cast "diety", tak ma sklamali.

4x4 budu ponukat nadalej co sa bojis ked nie si z Mochoviec ;-)

Je cas sa vratit do ustavu a zobrat si predpisane lieky :-)

je jedno koik kilo ale pořad to auto vypada tak zvalstne celkově 8-s 8-s

Co je na nej zvlastne? Je na nej zvlastne to, ze sa na nic co jazdi v jej triede nepodoba ako u jej konkurencie? Ak je to na nej zvlastne tak chapem. Je na nej zvlastne ze je to napriek neustalim reciam okolo jej hmotnosti a jej predaji jedno z najpodarenejsich aut svoej triedy? Je to kus auta,odlisne, ktore chyti za srdce a nie je to len kus plechu ako ostatne. Inak okrem tohto neviem co na nej je zvlastne 8-s Asi to ze mi 159 SW 2,4JTDm 20V nehovori pane a neparkuje v mojej garazi...to je fakt zvlastne >:D

... :yes:,jasný souhlas!

s tuo vahou to ale u Alfy naozaj pokaslali... 45kg dolu urcite potrebuje, ale ptorebovala by viacej. Stale vsak podvozkovo je vyborna, aj ked pekelne tvrda. Oproti 156 vsak priniesla toho trochu malo, len znacne vyssiu vahu.
Q2 u viacerych modelov moze byt vsak dalsia zaujimava vec.
Uplne najvacsia chyba ale je, ze v zadu sa neda sediet, preto som pred rokom a nieco zavrhol kupu (okrem ceny pri vybave, aku som chcel). To je jeden z mala sedanov strdnej triedy, kde si "za seba" nesadnem ani omylom. To uz prehnali, itez nevozim prilis casto vela ludi u seba v aute, ale toto - to si clvoek moze kupit radsej rovno COUPE.

skus ich stranku predsa...alfaromeo.cz/sk/it/com niekde nieco bude

Electronic Q2 - založeno na brzdovém systému - pomocí ESP jednotky.
V angličtině zde:
Debuting on the Alfa 159 MY 08 (berlina and Sportwagon), Brera MY 08 and Spider MY 08 is the Electronic Q2. Conferring all the merits of front-wheel traction, enhancing driving pleasure and control and guaranteeing some of the advantages typical of an integrated traction. Therefore, the system is mated perfectly to the torque capacity and differing power arrangements, raising yet further the excellent performance of the vehicles.

This is how it works. The Electronic Q2 system is based upon the use of the braking system, which is controlled in an opportune manner by the ESP control box. This functions very similarly to a limited slip differential (for example the mechanical Torsen type, called Q2). In particular, the front braking system, when accelerating in a curve, shifts the torque to the internal wheel, so increasing the motricity of the wheel (more loaded)

The traction is permanently shifted in a dynamic manner between the front and rear wheels, according to driving conditions and road surface. The Electronic Q2 is mated exclusively to the front wishbone suspension, which allows a particularly efficient and sporty tuning of the vehicle.

Alfa Romeo, in fact, began with an excellent reputation among it's clients for the front suspension (it's not by chance that most motoring industries chose our solution). Suffice to say, that beyond the overall advantages of this type of design (weight, on-board comfort etc.), when in tight-driving conditions, the understeer of the front traction allows the driver to respond to the vehicles needs more intuitively. It's here, that the sensation of a front-wheel traction being more “genuine” than a rear-wheel traction is born.

Instead, in the 4x4 versions the Electronic Q2 is mated to the rear axle, further increasing the already famed easy driving and pleasure of the Q4, and so conferring a greater perception of sportiness. The performance is that of a integrated 4x4 with central Torsen and rear self-locking electronic differential. To exalt these qualities, Alfa Romeo has put in place the Electronic Q2 system which has all the merits of front-wheel and 4x4 traction. Noticeably increasing the road handling, stability issue, and at the same time diminishing the understeer and steering-wheel displacement.

Komu to vadí, že to tu zasír... spoustou keců v angličtině, tomu se omlouvám :-)

Pujcoval jsem si na predvadeci jizdu 159 i 3ku a koupim asi 3ku - tu 159 jsem mel v 2,4 a ta vaha tam byla znat, i kdyz sila motoru taky. Zpracovani vnitrku prvotridni, vyhled dozadu (v kombiku) ne. Nakonec asi prevazil pro me novy pocit z nahonu zadnich kol, sportovniho podvozku a kratkyho chodu radici paky u BMW. Ale jinak i ta 159 se mi dost libila. :yes: